Anarchists Confront a Stalker and Deliver a Message

 Anyone who is curious about systemic gendered violence should watch this. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekyg7yy4Dc

In the comments: sane people get called trolls, ignorant immature children hang on to their persecution complexes for dear life and refuse to see how crazy they are or take any responsibility for their immature actions.

 Feminism is trolling. Critical theory was made up in a delibrate attempt to anger and divide people in America. This is clear an example of that.

Calling the police makes you responsible for everything they do in turn...in a time when they've been killing a lot of people, that may have been bad for your ethical compass or karma or whatever the hell.

. My all time favorite quote is at the very end: "it feels really fuckin powerful to have 28 of your friends screaming behind you, even if they don't know the whole story they just believe you" << Implies that in her own words there is a "whole story" that isn't being told here.

Yep I'm stickin with my opinion that this girl is manipulating all of you to get back at her ex for a relationship that went south. Carry on sheeple.

Wait, suddenly there are death threats involved? Really? Or are we just demonizing some crude male stereotype now? I feel that would've been mentioned in the video.

You're absolutely right, the best way to deal with threats is counter threats.

So, when someone responds to the counter threat, with a counter-counter threat they bring two dozen people, to the house of each of the two dozen people who threatened them. And then the counter-counter-counter threat and so on.

Until...  every person on the planet abandons every other human activity and just harasses each other as we come home from work. Forever.

Or until we starve to death because no one is farming or gathering anymore.

I don't think you quite understand how the black bloc works, for one - none of the participants identities' are known to anybody, and there is no indication that the victim suggested this action to the participants. It's pretty unlikely that anybody in that video is gonna get arrested.

wtf?  black bloc is a PROTEST tactic.. once you remove it from street protest you basically just become a mob.. masked up. but a mob, none the less. 

since i don't know the extent of the relationship between the two parties its hard for me to decide how i feel about this.  i do feel its a little over-kill, and it leaves me with a shit ton of questions about the extent of problems, so that i could have a full story to formulate an opinion on.
 

my biggest problems over all is just the misuse of protest and assembly tactics for dealing with a personal issue, and that there is only one side of the story.

 Did you just say she is not a victim and then refer to her as a victim in the same sentence?

If she is a partisan... When you take the law into your own hands the onus of justice is on you. The methods you use and the fairness with which you treat both parties are things you now have to take responcibility for.

This was a BAD way to handle this. This is NOT a good example. 

This man was neither Brookfield properties or Monsanto, we was a fellow member of the community. Twenty Six people could've had an effective intervention about his behavior without all the anarcho-pageantry. I bet some of them even know him. Applying political tactics to an interpersonal dispute doesn't make it a political statement.

What I am saying is this: Mob rule is mob rule. All the high minded rhetoric in the world won't change that.

If there was a man who followed this example to deal with a female stalker and had two dozen people scream "Fuck you!" into her window, would he be fighting the patriarchy? Would you all leap to his defense and call what he did an act for the progress of the our species?

I empathize with the frustration that could be felt with such a situation, but showing up to someone house en masse with your face covered, is both a cowardly and inappriotriate way to have handled this.

When you use force and intimidation against an individual you immediately surrender the higher moral ground.

You can't be a defenseless victim and someone screaming "fuck you" backed up with a mob of 26 people at the same time. "Defenceless" is a word in the English language with a meaning, not just a catch phrase to throw around when its convenient.

Also, this was obviously the best way to handle this situation. There was obviously no other way to go about this. I think masked midnight mob is the best way to handle any situation: buying stamps, paying a parking ticket, delivering a baby. What fools we have been to do anything in daylight without two dozen masked accomplices.

On a serious note, what does this have to with anarchism? If people wearing black make it a direct action, would people wearing letterman jackets make did this would it of made it a varsity sport? Does this have anything to do with 'Tura Durruti or Deconstruction or opposing the state?

Latestly I would like to congradulate the people of southern United States as a whole for not developing any new problem solving skills in the past one hundred and forty five years.

Good night and happy new year.

Coming from a town where these issues are NEVER dealt with, and there is constantly people leaving because they are totally thrown aside, thank you.

PLEASE don't let these dumb fucks get you down. There will always be people who don't want to deal with these things head on. Our communities will ALWAYS be stronger when we do. Inaction is the reason why the 4th largest city (or is it 3rd now?) is the states is a sea of desolation for anything remotley radical.

Keep up the fight!

"It's not a matter of victim blaming. It's a matter of a bunch of 28 year old knownothings being police, judge, and jury on their friend's situation."

Seriously, you are just trolling at this point.

I mean, for one you're making all these absurd assumptions that the people involved were "know-nothings" who did not consider the options involved before undergoing this course of action, along with meaningless (and baseless) accusations of their age, which really does not say a a damn thing about the people involved, although it does give me the impression that you believe nobody under the age of (at least) 28 has the ability to think for themselves.

Next you're claiming that anarchists acted as "police, judge, and jury" - which is equally ridiculous, because that would imply that anarchists placed this guy under arrest, forced him into legal proceedings, and then either sentenced him to punishment or absolved him. What they in fact did was simply tell a guy to stay away from their friend. No punishment was handed out, no absolute judgment was cast - a simple statement was delivered, reading "Our friend wants you to stay the fuck out of her life, and it would be in your best interest to do so."

I don't know why you would even expect anarchists to rely on a state apparatus such as law enforcement to handle problems that could be better handled by members of their community, anyway. But don't pretend that your political allegiance to the state is some kind of indicator of sound judgment on your part.  The fact that you trust the police and courts and prisons to handle problems in your life is not an indicator of anything positive. Naivete, if nothing else.

It's not a matter of victim blaming. It's a matter of a bunch of 28 year old knownothings being police, judge, and jury on their friend's situation.

I don't care what he did. I don't care if he murdered and raped a hundred children. You can't let mobs in masks go on to people's property and shout at criminals - and I use the word 'criminal' lightly, because he's still innocent until proven guilty.

 No, my friends can count on me telling them to go to law enforcement. I'm not going to show up at some guy's house calling him out. 

What if he truly was nuts and pulled out a shotgun?

Seriously. Morons. Don't cover this up with 'doing the right thing' or whatever dogmatic single digit morality you can come up with. If he truly is nuts, 'the right thing' is to go to the cops. If he really is nuts, what about the next girlfriend he has? What if /she/ doesn't have 28 friends stupid enough to do this?

Lastly, had she gone to the cops, he may have been arrested for the things he had done and not solely given an RO. Taking him off the streets.

Sorry, anarchist-wannabes, you aren't justice. You're a joke and a dangerous one at that.

(From the 6:14 or whatever guy, not the 10:12 one.)

"Seriously how can any of you argue that this isn't a case of mob justice sought out by people who are so ashamed of their actions they take steps to hide their identities? This isn't OWS its a bunch of idiots getting involved with each others personal business and acting like bullies."

So your idea of mob justice is standing with your friend who is being stalked and telling their stalker to leave them alone? Funny, because I would call that simply "being a good person" or "doing the right thing."

Cool, so your friends that have problems probably know they can't count on you to have their back.

lol, gotta love the idiots on here taking the stalker's side.

Derp, what if someone attacks you, and when you are defending yourself you push them and they fall over and get hurt! Better to just not defend yourself at all herp derp.

"Next time, why don't you just lynch the guy?"

Yep, reading a letter telling someone to leave you alone is almost the same thing as lynching! 

Good stuff.

Why do I get the feeling that you and the 10:12am guy are the same person?

I don't think you quite understand how the black bloc works, for one - none of the participants identities' are known to anybody, and there is no indication that the victim suggested this action to the participants. It's pretty unlikely that anybody in that video is gonna get arrested.

And I don't see how you make the conclusion that delivering a community response to an abusive dude could easily escalate to a murderous gang in a heartbeat. Clearly, "groupthink"  doesn't completely eradicate individual autonomy in this situation, since your example involves a lone individual chucking a rock. So what's the idea, here? In any case, I'd have to imagine that the participants in this action probably agreed to certain guidelines of behavior to prevent somebody from taking things too far in a volatile situation, anyway.

And why, exactly, are you under the impression that there was a better way to handle this? Do you think the police could have done more? I have personal experience with the police and their response to abusive exes and family members - they recommend a restraining order and then leave you in the dust. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, the police just don't have the time and money to watch over everybody who fears being assaulted by somebody they know. And yet, here we see anarchists stepping up to that responsibility.

I don't know why I'm even bothering responding. The language in your comment (and the 10:12am post) both sound like the derisive, agressive words of a troll - or maybe a friend of the guy who was the target of this action. If not the guy himself.

So awesome.

Good shit. I hope (and assume) that y'all got a very clear picture of what was going on with the conflict between these two people before making a move like this - obviously, one partner's description of an ugly interpersonal conflict can sound completely different from the other's. But all in all this appears to be a fucking awesome solution to relationship-related violence and harassment. I've seen this type of action happen before, and I'd like to see anarchists confronting abusive/controlling relationships more often.

This is what community accountability that centers the wishes of the survivor can look like. Hell yes. Good job.

That was good. We need to hold perpertrators of domestic violence (or those well on their way to such things) accountable. Hopefully he'll be too intimidated to continue stalking her from this point on, and will let it go.